Natural Horsemanship? Is it all like Parelli?
February 25th, 2010
What do you think of it and is it all like parelli?
Azeri- it would be great I’d you would tell me who you like. I am trying to get that "bond" with my horse but I don’t want to spend $500 on something that isn’t going to work.
The term "natural horsemanship" encompasses a lot of different styles of training, and personally, I don’t like the term. True classical dressage would actually be considered "natural horsemanship" because it trains the horse according to his natural physical and mental abilities and predispositions. And good western and english trainers have been using the same basic principles to train horses for a hundred years or more. What the "movement" or whatever you want to call it here in the USA is, is an attempt to get away from some pretty harsh training methods that evolved in most disciplines (and are practiced still here and in many other countries as well), and seem pervasive in some of the hispanic trainers’ circles (such as with the pasos), but really can be found in all disciplines, unfortunately.
So the short answer is, no. In particular, in my opinion, Parelli methods are futile and confusing to the horses, at best, and dangerous, at worst. I’m trying to figure out if the methods themselves are flawed or if it just attracts followers who are particularly inept at actually understanding how horses think. I’d like to meet PP and watch him teach, and ask him a few questions. . . .guess that won’t be happening.
I also am not a big Clinton Anderson fan, though undoubtedly he has geat success with certain types of horses. His methods would (and do) cause a lot of problems for many Thoroughbreds and Arabians, and horses with those types of temperaments, though.
I’ve worked with horses trained with both trainers’ methodologies, and they were sent to me bacause of problems which developed or were exacerbated by those particular training methods. I’ve only watched PP and CA on tv, and I can see where some of their techniques are causing problems with certain horses, even when done the way the trainers teach them to be done. Another one (almost no one has heard of) is Ryan Gingrich. He’s just very inexperienced with hands-on. I think he took some horse psychology courses in college. I’m not trying to be mean, just to give some honest evaluations, since you asked.
I’ll tell you who I do like, if you’re interested.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
‘natural horsemanship’ is just a new and improved label of some old tried and true methods that have been used for years. parelli has one style, lyons has another, Dorrance, roberts, all have their own little tweak on things. if a method works for you, then by all means use it, if you prefer a lyons method for one thing and a Roberts method for another,nothing wrong with that…do what ever works for you and your horse. But really and truly natural horsemanship has been going on for years but never labelled as such.
and no it is not all like parelli,
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February 25th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
It’s not all quite as nutty as parelli. A lot of them are pretty crazy though, but many work well. Clinton Anderson and Monty Roberts are both pretty good.
The phrase "natural horsemanship" just sets of warning bells in my head though. There’s no such thing as "natural" when it comes to domestic animals. Nothing natural about a rope halter and a carrot stick… only way to let your horse be really natural is to never touch it!
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February 25th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Sadly, no. There are others like Clinton Anderson who just aren’t the same. Am I against Clinton Anderson and other natural trainers? No, but Pat Parelli is by far the best!
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February 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
There is no "natural" anything for a domesticated animal. However, natural horsemanship is not using a carrot stick or a rope halter. It’s about connecting with your horse so that they trust you. I like join up and things like that. I think Pat Parelli sells stupid junk to make money, and it’s not worth it. It isn’t all like Parelli. I do like natural horsemanship, but not Parelli. To me, that isn’t natural horsemanship.
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February 25th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
The term "natural horsemanship" encompasses a lot of different styles of training, and personally, I don’t like the term. True classical dressage would actually be considered "natural horsemanship" because it trains the horse according to his natural physical and mental abilities and predispositions. And good western and english trainers have been using the same basic principles to train horses for a hundred years or more. What the "movement" or whatever you want to call it here in the USA is, is an attempt to get away from some pretty harsh training methods that evolved in most disciplines (and are practiced still here and in many other countries as well), and seem pervasive in some of the hispanic trainers’ circles (such as with the pasos), but really can be found in all disciplines, unfortunately.
So the short answer is, no. In particular, in my opinion, Parelli methods are futile and confusing to the horses, at best, and dangerous, at worst. I’m trying to figure out if the methods themselves are flawed or if it just attracts followers who are particularly inept at actually understanding how horses think. I’d like to meet PP and watch him teach, and ask him a few questions. . . .guess that won’t be happening.
I also am not a big Clinton Anderson fan, though undoubtedly he has geat success with certain types of horses. His methods would (and do) cause a lot of problems for many Thoroughbreds and Arabians, and horses with those types of temperaments, though.
I’ve worked with horses trained with both trainers’ methodologies, and they were sent to me bacause of problems which developed or were exacerbated by those particular training methods. I’ve only watched PP and CA on tv, and I can see where some of their techniques are causing problems with certain horses, even when done the way the trainers teach them to be done. Another one (almost no one has heard of) is Ryan Gingrich. He’s just very inexperienced with hands-on. I think he took some horse psychology courses in college. I’m not trying to be mean, just to give some honest evaluations, since you asked.
I’ll tell you who I do like, if you’re interested.
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February 25th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Natural horsemanship is a thing made up by people like Parelli to make money off of people who buy into the whole weird spiritual training concept. I personally think it’s a waste of both time and money. Just use the common training techniques that are tried and true, don’t waste a moment with something like Parelli or Lyons!
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