How to retrain my horse using natural horsemanship?

April 29th, 2010

My 6 year old develops awful manners throughout the winter months due to the fact that we do not have an indoor to use him in. I am looking to retrain him using natural horsemanship because that is what he was brought up with. Can anyone point out some good Parelli or other videos to watch?

From personal first hand experience the Parelli system can make your horse nervy, head shy, not cope in stressful situations, pushy.

I will get bagged out for saying this, but I would never touch a Parelli horse again. They swing a lead rope at the horse to get it to move away quickly, if it does not respond quick enough then it will get hit with the rope. Now you have a horse who moves away quickly and becomes nervous and jumpy that they will then be punished.

So what I’m left with is a horse who won’t stand still and runs away when you approach them? I can’t make much sense out of it. This horse was not taught by DVD’s, he actually attended 2 years of Parelli certified instruction courses and was in level 3.

I like Monty Roberts methods and I also like Clinton Andersons methods. While DVD’s are better than nothing, be careful about handing out hundreds of dollars for a system that does not give you a well rounded teaching method, such as Parelli. Nothing will beat the great instruction you will get hands on from a good mentor, if you have one near you ;-)

This is a link to a disturbing video that shows the Parelli techniques and has a bit more of my story in my answer.
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aq9_ynjXjdXssXHNAXdlONi4HBh.;_ylv=3?qid=20100312215732AA7svBx

All I will say is take a good look at several methods and look beyond the "puff" of advertising gimmicks before making a large investment in these DVD’s. I know 1 person out of all my horse friends who swears by it, but no other people can handle her horse. He needs to be handled with specific methods or the horse is in a constant battle for the leadership.

Good luck with your fellow ;-)

*** ADD – @ horsemadangel –
The horse I purchased was trained ONLY by certified Parelli instructors – are you implying they don’t know what they are doing, since Mr. Parelli himself travels here and certify’s them?

The video I have linked to does not lie. What I wrote above is MY personal experience with Parelli and I am happy for you to disagree with me.

However please explain the video to me and help me understand why, it was necessary for her to treat the horse in such a manner. He stood and gave his attention to her several times for short snippets. In a clinic situation like that, those small pieces of GOOD should have been picked up and rewarded.

It is like dealing with a child, they have short attention spans and are excited by new places. You don’t teach advanced mathematics in the middle of a shopping centre because it is distracting and hard to concentrate.

So I feel the horses should have been asked to pay attention and then rewarded on any of the many times he stood still and looked at her. If she had acted quicker in her praise the situation would not have dragged on and became ridiculous.

Please justify the method used here so perhaps we can all understand.

I purchased a level 3 Parelli horse only 2 months ago, because I thought it would be good. So I’m not a Parelli basher from way back! But I have been left absolutely astounded at the behaviour of this horse. Then even more disgusted the more I have researched and discovered about these methods.

Oh and by the way, I have not even given you a TD, because that is your opinion! Can you say the same? ;-(

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Is there anywhere my daughter can learn about horses and ride?

April 29th, 2010

We live in Central Texas. My daughter is 3 and is absolutely obsessed with horses. I would buy her one except that we live in an apartment and a horse wouldn’t fit. This isn’t something that is like a fad or something, she has loved them since she found out what they are and doesn’t stop talking about horses. She wants so badly to ride, but I have looked and can find no help. I would like to get her into a riding course that will teach her how to properly handle a horse, how to care for it, and how to ride. It doesn’t have to be a professional but definitely someone who knows what they are doing and has a very gentle horse because she is so little. I will go anywhere within like a hour and we live in Temple

Lone Dove Stable does Mommy and Me classes for 3-6 year olds in Temple, Texas
Horsin’ Around Riding Stable also does Mommy and Me classes

Here is the page I found them on:
http://www.newhorse.com/page/ridinglessons/b.511.g.5561.html

Have Fun.

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Where can one find a place to go horseback riding.?

April 29th, 2010

I live in southern Illinois and would like to go horsback riding for once in my life. I have never been on a horse before and have no exeperience. Is it possible to find a place that will take me and a friend out on a trail to just ride once? If so where can i find such a place?

check for riding camps in your area or if there is any horse owners around then ask them if you and your friend could ride for a day say that you will pay them if you need to
hope i helped

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Chelsie Kallestad of Chelsie Natural Horsemanship Jan 2009 – Horses Video

April 29th, 2010

http://www.chelsienaturalhorsemanship.com/. natural horsemanship Clinician Cheslie Kallestad of Chelsie Natural Horsemanship demonstrates true natural horsemanship principles. Experience an inspiring demonstration of the high-trust relationship that you can achieve between you and your horse. Learn more about natural horsemanship at our website: http://www.chelsienaturalhorsemanship.com/. We look forward to hearing from you!

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Safer Horsemanship DVD Trailer

April 29th, 2010

Horsemanship, like so many other of life’s most enjoyable and most fulfilling pursuits, can be potentially hazardous. Too many horses and too many people handling them are injured, primarily because people have never learned the rules of safe horsemanship. In this video, Dr. Miller shows the safety techniques learned during his 40-plus years as an equine veterinarian, and a lifetime as a horseman. Information is given about why and when handling horses may be risky, and how to minimize these risks by simply utilizing the rules of Safer Horsemanship. The video covers safety while performing routine health care such as taking temperatures, examining ears, medicating eyes, worming, cleaning hooves, and sheath and udder cleaning, as well as safety while catching, tying, tacking and untacking, riding, horse housing, and handling. Order DVD http://www.robertmmiller.com/visaho.html

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Eric Bravo Horse Training Videos

April 29th, 2010

http://www.ericbravo.com Using natural horsemanship techniques Eric Bravo shows you how to handle any horse, eliminate any bad horse behavior and learn to ride like a pro. In the leadership horse training video series, Eric Bravo teaches you how to catch any horse, leading, lunging, roundpen training, horse training in the saddle, and riding bareback and bridleless. Set includes 7 horse training videos.

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Valdi’s Moment In Time – Dressage Horse

April 29th, 2010

4 yr old SWB in his Training Level test, in which he got a score of 78%. Looking to sell him to an adult amateur or JR/YR who wants to learn how to ride a horse with talent and win blue ribbons. He won high point at his last show with a 78%! Email FMI nicole.voccia@hotmail.com

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Horse Care & Knowledge : Horse Anatomy: Back Legs & Hooves

April 29th, 2010

Horse anatomy includes hocks, gaskins and pasterns, features owners and riders should learn to converse with specialists. Learn about horse anatomy and parts of a horse’s back legs and hooves from a ranch owner in this free horse care video.

Expert: Kathy Kentala
Bio: Kathy Kentala owns the Bee Cave Riding Center in Austin, TX. She also owns Signal Hill Ranch, a western venue specializing in team penning and ranch sorting, barrels, poles, and other speed events.
Filmmaker: MAKE | MEDIA

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How Do You Get Started Trail Riding

April 29th, 2010

Getting started as a trail rider involves contacting the local branch of Backcountry Horsemen of America, a riding club dedicated to the lifestyle and recreation of trail riding. Learn to handle a horse before hitting the trail with helpful advice from an experienced trail boss in this video on horseback riding.

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What do people dislike about Parelli natural horsemanship?

April 26th, 2010

Try and be at least somewhat rational in your answers….
It seems like most of you are against Parelli, and I just want to know why.
It seems to me that when the techniques are done correctly, without the use of pain, force, or fear to get what you want….they can’t really go wrong.
Besides, if it was as awful as it’s made out to be…no one would use it, and they certainly wouldn’t get the kind of results that they do. Right?
I just want to understand the reasoning.
Thanks!

My biggest problem with Parelli is that they are no longer concerned about the horse, but about making money. It turned from a fairly decent training regimen into a money machine. My next biggest problem is the idea of your horse being your "friend." This in and of itself is dangerous. Your horse doesn’t want to be your equal – that’s not the way it works in nature; horses use a hierarchy and live by it. They need a consistent leader (you). Being your horse’s "friend" puts you in a dangerous position, because if you don’t establish yourself as the top dog, your horse will, and that’s a situation you don’t want to be in.

Another thing is, Parelli does not advocate helmets because (and I don’t remember a direct quote, but it was something along the lines of…) "by the time our trainers are ready to get in the saddle (which is three years, by the way), the horse is so well trained, the rider doesn’t NEED a helmet," which is wrong, wrong, wrong! I’ll admit, I don’t wear a helmet every time I ride, but to flat out say, "nah, you don’t need one" is just messed up.

I’ve worked with three horses trained by "Parelli Instructors", and every single one of them has been ruined. Case No. 1: Diamond. My instructor’s mare was sent of to a 4 star certified Parelli instructor, because my trainer was pregnant with her first child and was too far along to start the mare. When Diamond came back, she was spooky, would not let anyone near her in the field, attempted to climb out of the round pen, and only feels comfortable around people when they’re on the other side of her stall. Case No. 2: Friday – MY horse. He was trained by a local woman who is NOT certified Parelli before I bought him. He seemed okay, but he’s extremely hard to train, always looks around under saddle, ignores you, get frightened immensley by whips and crops, will not lounge at all without throwing a fit. Case No. 3: Spiderman – a walking horse trained by a Parelli follower (I’m not sure if they were certified or not). Spiderman was afraid of you if you waved your arm. Would not be caught in the field, and bolted at the slightest movement of your body (but was okay with tarps and hula hoops, at least!). I had to retrain him for a university class, and it was a nightmare. By the end, we found trust in eachother, unfortunately the person who bought him suffered from a broken leg caused by Spidy, and I think, but don’t know, that he was sent to slaughter.

On the flip side, I saw a young Parelli enthousiast train a horse at the same university with a mixture of Parelli and cowboy techniques, and he turned out beautifully. Just, I’ve not had good experiences with Parelli. Maybe I just got to know the three worst Parelli-trained horses ever, but it seems like an odd chance that the only three I know are basically crazy.

EDIT: Also, I know for a FACT that Parelli doesn’t always abide by his own techniques. He came here for a clinic and I saw him behind the arena working with his stallion. Instead of being passive when he misbehaved (which is what he preaches), he got onto the stallion and shanked him and gave him proper discipline. That, to me, justifies the fact that he doesn’t care about what he tells people as long as he gets paid.

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